Tuesday, 20 October 2009

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comparitive analysis between the deserter and the hero.

Similarities.
  • Although the two titles seem to differ, with one being a hero and one being a deserter really they are about the same circumstances. Both men in the poems were trying to escape the war. 
  • The mothers of the men are both misinformed and think their sons are hero's that died for their country.
  • The hero uses enjambement and so does the deserter.
Differences.
  •        The rhyming pattern in the hero is AA,BB,CC and in the deserter the rhyming pattern is A,B,C,B.
  • The soldier in the deserter was killed by his own country and the hero was killed by an opposing country.
Comments about the poems-
When in the Deserter the line ' an english bullet in his heart'  is repeated twice it adds emphasis and impact on the way the line makes you think. It adds a slight shock to the reader and maybe makes you feel guilty. It also shows that the war had no mercy , no life was spared and no mistake would be taken lightly.

Alice Collett,  Cleophie Alexander, Eleanor Izzard and Leanne Knights.blog party!

Comparison of Recruiting and The Target!!!!

  1. Recruiting is showing the public the truth behind the propaganda "Lads, you're wanted, go and help." The Target is very blunt and shows what can really happen on the front line.
  2. Both poems use guilt to emphasize their message.
  3. Both use caesuras and enjambments.
  4. In recruiting the second and fourth lines rhyme in every verse (ABCB) whereas the Target uses rhyming couplets.
  5. Recruiting is very literal and doesn't describe much emotion, however, the Target uses a lot of imagery and is visceral.
  6. Both tell that the soldiers will die no matter what happens. In the target the poet writes as a soldier who has just killed another man but did not have any choice because he did it to save himself.
  7. Both have a mixed number of syllables per verse, this shows that the poet hasn't focused on this.
  8. Recruiting is probably written about the poet's own experiences as he was an officer in WW1. Ivor Gurney was also a soldier in WW1 but a lesser one than E.A. Mackintosh and so is showing his own experiences and what he probably had to do.
  9. Ivor Gurney writes about the people left at home and all their worries about their relatives on the front line. E.A. Mackintosh however tells them to forget their other life and to learn to "Live and die with honest men."
  10. Both poems have four lines in each of their stanzas, which is the typical length for a poem.
Alexia, Katie, Laurie and Felicity.

Monday, 19 October 2009

Comparison of two poems by Wilfred Owen

This is a picture of Wilfred Owen, the poet. This picture demonstrates that he served in the war and died during service.
We are going to compare two poems by Wilfred Owen. One is from the book; The Send Off and the other we found on the internet; Disabled.

This is Disabled

He sat in a wheeled chair, waiting for dark,
And shivered in his ghastly suit of grey,
Legless, sewn short at elbow. Through the park
Voices of boys rang saddening like a hymn,
Voices of play and pleasure after day,
Till gathering sleep had mothered them from him.

About this time Town used to swing so gay
When glow-lamps budded in the light blue trees,
And girls glanced lovelier as the air grew dim, -
In the old times, before he threw away his knees.
Now he will never feel again how slim
Girls' waists are, or how warm their subtle hands;
All of them touch him like some queer disease.

There was an artist silly for his face,
For it was younger than his youth, last year.
Now, he is old; his back will never brace;
He's lost his colour very far from here,
Poured it down shell-holes till the veins ran dry,
And half his lifetime lapsed in the hot race
And leap of purple spurted from his thigh.

One time he liked a blood-smear down his leg,
After the matches, carried shoulder-high.
It was after football, when he'd drunk a peg,
He thought he'd better join. - He wonders why.
Someone had said he'd look a god in kilts,
That's why; and may be, too, to please his Meg;
Aye, that was it, to please the giddy jilts
He asked to join. He didn't have to beg;
Smiling they wrote his lie; aged nineteen years.
Germans he scarcely thought of; all their guilt,
And Austria's, did not move him. And no fears
Of Fear came yet. He thought of jewelled hilts
For daggers in plaid socks; of smart salutes;
And care of arms; and leave; and pay arrears;
Esprit de corps; and hints for young recruits.
And soon, he was drafted out with drums and cheers.

Some cheered him home, but not as crowds cheer Goal.
Only a solemn man who brought him fruits
Thanked him; and then inquired about his soul.

Now, he will spend a few sick years in institutes,
And do what things the rules consider wise,
And take whatever pity they may dole.
To-night he noticed how the women's eyes
Passed from him to the strong men that were whole.
How cold and late it is! Why don't they come
And put him into bed? Why don't they come?

This poem is about someone who has come home from the war and who is now disabled. It could be considered a sequel to The Send-Off because The Send-Off is about someone going into war, and Disabled is about someone coming back. Disabled may be referring to the people he saw around him when he was on sick leave from the war and The Send-Off may be referring to him going to the war.

In Disabled, Owen turns fear into a proper noun; "And no fears Of Fear came yet." This sentence means that the man in the poem didn't fear Fear yet. The use of personification turns fear into a concrete noun making it into someone and making it scarier. When it is a proper noun it seems to be more important, and as it is usually not capitalized the slight change is very noticeable and it makes you feel that you can't escape it. However, Owen does not use personification in The Send-Off and this shows how he can use different techniques for different effects and doesn't always have to fill his poems with every technique, but can use just a few and make them powerful.

When you read both poems you feel empathy for the people in it, but we think that we feel more empathy for the character in Disabled because of what he's gone through; "Legless, sewn short at elbow." This verse is very to the point and makes you realise what's happened. In The Send-Off you feel empathy for the women and children who are losing their loved ones because they are going to war. You also know that most of them won't come back so you feel for them more. When you read it you have the benefit of hindsight and you know what is going to happen to them when their loved ones don't come back.

The last stanza of The Send Off is contrasting to the previous stanza. While before it made it seem as though when the soldiers arrived home they would get a heroes welcome, the last paragraph contradicts this point. "May creep back, silent, to village wells, Up half-known roads" This shows the darker side, the real side of what happens when they eventually return home. The word half-known suggests that even though they may have spent most of their lives living there, the war had had made even the most important and memorable things in life seem distant and foreign.

from Ed Parry, Lucy Oliva, Georgie Bray and Ashley Layer group 3

Comparison of "The Hero" and "Spring in War - Time" ;)

For "The Hero" there are 10 syllables per line, however on line 7 it could be argued that it has 11 syllables as it depends on how you say it. This poem uses rhyming couplets apart from the 1st four lines of the second verse, which uses alternate rhyme - this shows a very clear middle section. This poem uses a lot of enjambement, practically every line is continued into the next. Due to this caesura is used to show the ending of each particular line.
The poem is seen from two perspectives, the worried mother who receives the news of her sons death and the Officer who delivers the telegram and also has to break the news to her. The poem is not necesssarily reccounted from her point of view, quite a lot of the poem is talking about her emotions, so her point of view is a big factor in the poem. It is quite a detailed, narrative poem and it uses speech etc which shows it in more of a story form. As this poem is very explanitary and detailed it lacks technicality.
eg: there are hardly any metaphors, similies or personification in the poem.
Abi Sears, Kate Millington, Tash Black, Hollie Rathbone and Katie Saddler (':


Comparative analysis of joining the colours and the send-off.

1.  Joining the colours uses an AB AB structure, and the send-off uses an ABA AB structure. These rhyming schemes make the poems flow.
2. Joining the Colours has 4 stanzas of 4 lines, with the 4th of each using only 3 words. The Send-Off has 8 stanzas of 3, and then 2 lines. 
3. both of these poems are about men going off to fight the war. Joining the colours is more about what these people will miss, and The Send-off is more about the soldiers getting on the train to France, to their deaths. 
4. the  author of Joining The Colours is Female, and The Send-off is written by Wilfred Owen, a soldier fighting in the war.
5. Both of the poems use enjamberment. An example from The Send Off is "They sang there way To thee siding shed."An example from Joining The Colours " row on row On high tram tops"
By using enjamberment the poets allows the poem to flow as you read it, it carries on the thought from the previous line. 


Dan, Nathan, Henry 

Comparison between Spring in War-Time and The Deserter

1. The most clear difference between these two poems is that The Deserter is written as one exceedingly long stanza, however Spring in War-Time is divided into four short stanza's.
2. Both poems have a rhyming pattern. Spring in War-Time uses alternate rhyming consistently throughout the poem but The Deserter has a less obvious rhyming structure, though there is still evidence of a pattern within.
3. One of the most obvious techniques used in The Deserter is repitition, used very regularly, though Spring in War-Time doe not use this approach, Nesbit uses ellipsis, which The Deserter lacks.
EVELYN, ALIX, Nor and Rachel

Comparison of The Hero and Reported Missing

  • Reported missing's rhyming scheme is abbaaccadeedaa where as the Hero's rhyming scheme is aabbccdedeffgghhii which makes the hero sound more lyrical like a song unlike reported missing which sounds less like a song so each line has more impact as there's more description to absorb.
  • Both poems show a character trying to look at the brighter side of their situation although in reported missing the character is in denial and doesn't want to accept the harsh realities of war.
  • The hero contains speech which makes the poem more personal and emotional for the reader as its more real and portrays a empathic story.
Izzie bex tash and jenny

The Hero and Spring in War Time

Comparative analysis of The Hero and Spring in Wartime.
1. In the Hero the majority of the poem's lines have 10 syllables each but the poet hasn't emphasised it as a key feature so some have 11. However in Spring in War Time the poet has made sure that every line has seven syllables apart from the last, which has three, giving a very clear ending to the poem.
2.  In the Hero, the poet uses rhyming couplets throughout the poem apart from the first 4 lines of the second verse which are alternate rhyming and gives a very clear middle section but in Spring in War Time the poet uses alternate rhyming throughout. This makes it feel more traditional as the poem has the standard stanza length and rhyming.
3. The Hero uses many enjambments to make the poem have the feel as if it is being spoken aloud. This makes the poem flow as it doesn't stop and start at the end of each line. However Spring in War Time doesn't focus too much on technicality and therefore has a much more simpler look and sound.
4. Both of these poems are about grieving women but the Hero is about a mother who has lost her son and Spring in War Time is about a grieving widow.
5. Spring in War Time concentrates on nature and the poet's surroundings. it has a positive approach with flowers growing over graves and that everything will continue although he is dead, whereas the Hero has a negative approach and in the last stanza he talks about that no cares that he is dead apart from his mother as he was a cowardly soldier and didn't want to go to fight.
6. Spring in War Time is a very figurative poem and the Hero is more literal.

Alexia, Felicity,Laurie and Katie.

Our Follower

Having read Dean Echenberg; our follower's website, we would like to recommend it to you because it gives an in-depth list of many war poems. If you do some creative writing over the half-term, you may want to look at his website and pick some more war poems for your writing.

www.echenberg.org/warpoetry

From Ed Parry, Lucy Oliva, Georgie Bray and Ashley Layer - group 3 :)

Comparison of 'Spring in War Time' and 'The Target'

Similarities

- They both create a very clear image in your mind of the experiences that are being described and both are very descriptive.

- In both poems the poet uses enjambement. This technique sustains the mood of the poem throughout and makes the feelings of the person the poem is written from, clear.

- Throughout both poems, there is a clear contrast in feelings. In 'Spring in War Time', at the end of every stanza the mood changes, as the last line always contradicts the rest of each stanza, and in 'The Target', there is a very clear contrast between feelings of the man who is at war and the feelings of the soldiers family, and the consequences they will have to face since their son has been killed. There is a very clear feeling of guilt.

- Both poems give across a very clear sense of emotion, and the writer puts across the feelings so that they appear to be genuine. This draws the reader in and makes you feel sorry for the sufferer. These poems may come as some comfort to both grievers and people who have experienced war.

Differences

- The rhyming patterns in both poems are very different. 'Spring in War Time' has an ABAB rhyming pattern, and we feel that this keeps the poem flowing and keeps the reader prepared for what's coming next. 'The Target' uses rhyming couplets which yet again, sustains the readers interest and keeps the poem flowing.

- Both poems are written from different viewpoints. 'The Target' is written from the viewpoint of someone who has experienced war, and the horrors it brings; 'Spring in War Time' is written from the viewpoint of someone who is grieving and the horrors that the death of close ones brings.

- In 'The Target', the poet uses particular words which makes you think more broadly about things and imagine them more clearly. 'Spring in War Time' has a very positive feel about it most of the time and makes you feel some comfort for what has happened to the person because they appear to be handling it well.


SIAN and TORI

Sunday, 18 October 2009

Comparisons between 'The Hero' and 'In flander Fields'

Here are some comparisons between 'The Hero' and 'In flander
Fields':

  • They are both written in the same time period.
  • Both Poems are writen in 3 stanzas.
  • The Hero is written in couplets and In Flander's Fields is written in the
    scheme 'AABBA, AABC, AABBAC.
  • Both poems use enjamberment to great effect.
  • The Hero doesn't have a distinct rhythm. In Flanders Fields has a sort of rhythm.
  • Both poems are about death. The Hero is about the death of someone whilst In Flander's Fields is written as if by one of the many dead.
  • In Flanders Fields uses repation and this coupled with the last stanza makes the poem sound rather erie.
  • The Hero starts as if 'Jack' was a hero and had died fighting the enemy. We find out later that he actually died trying to escape. This gives the poem a rather dark ending.
  • In Flanders Fields there is a slight use of archaic language (Ye).
  • In Flanders Fields uses semicolons to move the peom on whilst The Hero uses comas only.

By Nathan, Dan and Henry

Comparison of Recruiting and Spring Offensive

I am going to write 4 points comparing Recruiting by E. A. Mackintosh and Spring Offensive by Wilfred Owen

  1. Meaning - Recruiting shows the real truth behind recruitment posters and how they lie, and Spring Offensive is about war in spring-time and how soldiers spend all this time getting ready to fight, just to go and die. In a way, Recruiting shows what life is going to be once you've signed up through these recruitment poster to go to war, and Spring Offensive proves it and describes it in more detail.
  2. Both poems don't have a point of view from someone in the poem, but it is from the poet, telling us the poem, not the poet writing about someone telling us the poem.
  3. Recruiting emphasises on the meaning of the poem and the truth behind the recruitment posters, Spring Offensive emphasises on the effect on the reader and hits you at then end because you read about how they are all getting ready, and then what leaves you with the biggest impact and what makes you remember the poem is how they all die at the end.
  4. Recruiting has a regular rhyming pattern; ABCB whereas Spring Offensive has a very irregular rhyming pattern. In Spring Offensive each stanza is of a different length and has a different rhyme scheme, in Recruiting, each stanza is of the same length and has the same rhyme scheme.
From Ed Parry

Comparitve points on 'Recruiting' and 'The Send Off'.

Our group made 10 comparitive points on 'Recruiting' and 'The Send Off'.

1. 'Recruiting' has a rhyming scheme of ABCB whilst 'The Send off' has ABA and Ab rhyming schemes.

2. 'Recruiting has a set rhyme scheme whilst 'The send off' is just sentances.

3. They both focus on the dark side of war.

4. Both poets died in the war, so probably shared similar experiances.

5. Both poems have enjambement and caesural pauses.

6. 'Recruitment' has a much more defined rhythm, whilst 'The send off' has different punctuation at the end of each line which gives a different rhythm.

7. 'Recruitment' is much more literal.

8. Both poems get more sinister as you go through.

9. Both poems are done as though reflecting on the war.

10. Both poems are about going into the war, not about the actual fighting.

By Tash Beaumont, Georgie Bray, Ashley Layer and Lucy Oliva.

Saturday, 17 October 2009

eleanor and jenny

joining the colours and the target comparison

Joining the colours is written in third person where as the target is written in first. This makes the target feel more personal but joining the colours gives a more overall look at the war.
Both poems seem to tell a story if you put them together. joining the colours is about how the soldiers who are soon to be fighting are 'smooth cheeked' as if to say they healthy and ready for what they don't think wont be as horrific as it turns out. The target show the truth about war so you can see what the soldier experiences when he's there, and how he tries to justify it in his mind.
Both poems were probably written around the same time if you look at the birth dates of the writers. this could mean that any similarities in what has been written are true.
The target has rhyming couplets but joining the colours has a ABAB rhyming scheme. A s a result the target flows differenty so each line links to the last so the poem gradually builds a picture in your mind making each line more memorable. The rhyming scheme for joining the colours has a harsher impact because the lines seem to stop dead as you read them which is quite effective.

Friday, 16 October 2009

Comparison of The Hero and Spring in War Time

1-3 is group work the rest is mine

1. In The Hero there are 10 syllables in each line but the poet hasnt concentrated on keeping the same number the whole way through as there are 11 in some. however in Spring in War Time there are 7 syllables in each line apart from the last, which has 3. this gives a clear ending to the poem as if it was read out to you, you would know where it finished.
2. The Hero uses rhyming couplets apaert from the middle which uses alternate rhyming. This gives a very clear middle section to the poem. Spring inWar Time uses alternate rhyming all the way through.
3. The Hero has many enjambements and creates a feeling as if the poem is being spoken aloud. Spring in War Time doesn't focus on technicallity that much and looks and sounds and you would expect a poem to.
4.The Hero is about a greving mother being told for the first time that her son is dead. she is told he died a hero when really he was a coward and was selfish as well. Spring in War Time is similar to this as it is also about a dead soldier but this time by a greving wife/fiancee/sweetheart. she hasnt been told any lies, or so it seems in the poem, and she is telling the world that nothing will be the same without her man.
5.Nesbit has published her poem to immortalise her dead love and as a tribute to him. Sassoon, however, has published his to show the public that what they are told might not be the truth and that 'brave' men aren't always brave in the light of battle.
6.The Hero is written in 3 stanzas, each 6 lines ong. Spring in War Time is also written in stanzas, this time 4, each 4 lines long. they both give a sense of regularity and this makes it comforting to the reader, to have something familiar in front of them.

1-3:Abi, Kate, Laurie and Alexia
4-6: Alexia

Comparison of "The Bohemians" and "Lamentations"

We have compared The Bohemains by Ivor Gurney and Lamentations by Siegfried Sassoon.

SIMILARITES:
  1. Both of the poems have only one stanza
  2. Neither of them have a specific rhyming pattern
  3. They both use the technique of enjambement

DIFFERENCES:

  1. In The Bohemians, the mood of the poem is rebellious, lazy and also sympathetic, whereas in Lamentations it is a poem with the mood of sad, slightly disturbing, grief-stricken and distress.
  2. Although both of the poems rough outline of the story is about war, they are to do with completely different stubjects within war. The Bohemians is about "certain people" who were rebelling against the uniform which soldiers had to wear. They "would not clean their buttons" and "preferred their hair long." The reason for them doing this was beause they assumed they would die in war and therefore didn't think it would be neseccary for them to dress apropriately.Whereas Lamentations is about a guy who's brother had "gone west" which could mean the brother had literally gone west or that he had died, as later it says "his ramant grief."
  3. The symbolism in The Bohemians is of independance, uniqueness and being virtuous. Whereas the symbolism of Lamentations is of how war drives some people mad.
  4. In both of the poems they use different techniques, but neither of them use the same ones: a simile is used in The Bohemians: "sped like evil for quicknes." And peronification is used in Lamentations: "from the blind darkness."

By Rachel, Evelyn, Izzie and Alix :)

Comparative Analysis of 'Flanders Fields' and 'Spring in War Time'

Similarities
  • Both appreciate everyday life
  • Both discuss nature and wildlife [poppies, sunsets, battlefields, etc]
  • Both are centered on a person/ people who have been killed
  • Both talk about flowers growing over the place of death, but one talks about poppies and the other about violets
  • Both refer to the past: in 'Flanders Fields' lines 7 to 8, and in 'Spring In War Time' lines 2 to 4
  • Both sound as though they are speaking to someone or the poem is directed at somebody

Differences
  • Stanza length
  • Rhyming pattern - one is alternate, whereas the majority of the other is rhyming couplets
  • At the end of each poem the last stanzas have different moods: 'Flanders Fields' is almost threatening and angry, 'Spring In War Time' accpets the loss but is going through the process of grief
  • In 'Flanders Fields' - the author has personified death to add emphasis to the negative emotions felt towards it
  • In 'Flanders Fields' they continuously repeat the title of the poem although 'Spring In War Time' doesn't even mention the title of the poem once
By Natasha Black, Katie Rees, Holly Rathbone and Felicity Lawrie

Thursday, 15 October 2009

Comparison of Spring In War Time and Lamentations

- The spring in war time refers to a woman who has lost her love (probably husband), where as Lamentations refers to a man who has lost his brother and feeling of love for his country.
-Lamentations has irregular rhyming, where as Spring in war time has an ABAB structure.
-Both refer to the loss of a loved one, although Lamentations is viewing the person grieveing, and Spring in war time is written from the point of view of the person grieving.
-The poem Lamentations uses 'blind darkness' to show death in a more brutal mood where as Spring in war time uses 'sprinkled blackhorn snow' which gives the poem a lighter tone.
-Spring in war time is very descrpitive of the setting where as Lamentations focuses on the description of the man grieving.
-spring in war time uses enjambment 'heart to sing.....of its nest' Lamentations also uses enjambment but not to perfect the rhyming pattern, but to variate the lines
-Lamentations uses the rule of three 'moaned, shouted, sobbed' for effect on the reader. Spring in war time does not use this.
-Spring in war time uses personification saying 'every bird has heart to sing' whereas Lamentations does not use this because its talking about a person already.

by BLOG PARTY
ellie, leanne, cleophie, alice

Wednesday, 14 October 2009

The Hero and In Flanders Fields

SIMILARITIES

  • In their structures the poems are very similar as they each contain three seperate verses
  • They both include enjambement, which I feel makes you want to carry on reading
  • The mood in both poems is quite proud and determined even though they are both based on death
  • In both poem the writter makes you feel sad for them because in The Hero they have lost a loved one and in Flanders Fields they have lost their lives
  • They both talk in the past tense but as if it has happened very recently

DIFFERENCES

  • The Hero is a story about lies and In Flanders Fields is about the truth
  • The Hero is straight forward and follows a story where as In Flanders Fields you have to read between the lines of the poem to realise the poppies symbolise the dead soldiers
  • The Hero is based on the tale of one person, where as In Flanders Fields it looks at a large population
  • The Hero has a rhyming scheme of mainly ryhming couplets and In Flanders Fields it has a random rhyming pattern
  • I think that In Flanders Fields is quite lyrical, because it uses repition, rather than the more strutured story that is in the poem of The Hero

Eleanor Izzie Alix Jennifer